Asking Doctor Mike About Fitness Wearables
Doctor Mike stopped by to discuss all things health in tech! In this clip, Marques and Andrew ask him about his thoughts on fitness wearables and whether or not they’re actually useful.
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I love my apple watch and fitness watches in general. My problem comes from the lack of education from consumers who will buy the most expensive watch for features they don’t need/know they won’t use when something like the SE series fits most people’s everyday needs or buy the newest one every 1-2 years. Just the over consumerism is what annoys me. But I guess that’s on the people rather than the creators
edit: just got to the part where Marques is talking about the truck analogy and thats exactly what I mean! Marques and I seeing eye to eye lol
These trackers haven’t been proven to help you improve your health. They literally provide nothing except stress you out more about how stressed you already are.
do not wear wireless tech
12:14 – 5% is A LOT! if you actually into changing yourself…
funny that the example that he gives in the beginning could be applied to the vaxx lol
Not a good video to post with only one person’s opinion on these watches. They should have had several others including those supporting the technology. He comes across as the only authority on the topic. Not worth sharing.
If you go to app watch 7 I watch 8 or 6 you’re better and nice and cool and the ultra is better
FITVII smart watches are better
Ny fitbit ECG detected afib, so i made an appointment with the doctor even though i didn’t have any serious symptoms. and he confirmed it and started the therapy process. So if that means i won’t get a stroke in the near future, i say it was very beneficial!
the irony is that i bought the thing because i wanted to get more serious with exercise, which is now put on hold while this is going on…
Being a person that has heart issues…. Having the Apple Watch, I’ve been able to track and monitor if or when it happens. I find it a useful tool so that I can be more mindful about it.
How is checking things like your heart rate while working out or trades over time not useful for the average person. Rearearch tells us a lot of people overestimate how much they do and these watches can give them specific data on their works and and if they’re working out hard enough because of the passive nature of its data collection and it’s non reliance on human memory.
Medic student here. I had suspected that I might have SVT, and after an episode of syncope during an episode of tachycardia, palpitations, difficulty breathing etc. I decided to pick up an apple watch. First ECG I captured was textbook SVT: Narrow complex, hidden P-waves, 190bpm. Took that into my GP and her first words was "that’s awesome, that’s so cool! I can’t believe you caught that!". I’m now scheduled for an ablation!
My heart was beating in an afib pattern and the Apple Watch kept pinging me. I didn’t believe it for two day as I’m in my twenties, but I ended up going to the ER and they got my heartbeat back to regular. I would have never known without the watch.
2:57 what happened to the audio?
2:58 what happened to the mic
I must be honest, I disagree with Dr Mike. When I monitor my fitness and dieting activity, I tend to stick to it. It’s something about tracking that reminds you about your goal
I am not in great shape so just to do a light cleaning. I noticed my heartbeat go to high. Now I noticed that when I started getting more active my heartbeat went lower. So I ues my fit bit to see my progress. So I am getting healthier. It’s really helping me with my bad sleep habits and I am getting better. I really feel that is good for me to get healthier
The data is not accurate in comparison that the medical diagnostic equipment measures .
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Just a tracker to spy on you. They will get worse . Land of the zombies . Most folk are zombies so they will be happy enough .lol
I think all of these just help us all be healthier and thats good. Plus it offers motivation 🎉
My Apple Watch alerted I had heart rate 30bpm . My radial pulse was irregular and slow. I went to A&E was admitted ECG showed ventricular ectopics I was also hypertensive. I was admitted to hospital for 6 days had CT cardiac angiogram now on medication. UK cardiologist recommended wearing these watches/devices this doctor isn’t up to speed re these devices. People have reported they have felt unwell but the watch alert so they went to A&E.
The fall and car crash detection is big for me, when my parents get older I will get them Apple Watches just so I can be a bit more certain that they are ok
6:50 📺 you had a notification both of you from watching sports 🏀 and getting that intense about it and it actually alerted you on your phone that is saying a lot through there?!! Mean I don’t know if that’s a good thing or bad thing. You’re getting alert messages saying it’s bad and you guys are what 30 years old more than 35 years old wow wow wow
Well, speaking about creatinine, maybe for heals it’s a 5% top improvement, but for looks and generally appearing big, it definitely has a higher degree of an affect
Listening to these guys only confirms that they have no idea of what they are doing.
When Steve Jobs was alive, Apple had a vision. Now, Apple is just another corporate entity.
Smart wearables were used in the world’s largest heart-health research project to screen 10 thousand people of suspected atrial fibrillation with a 94% accuracy. The study, conducted by Huawei technologies, shows the impact smart technology can have in the healthcare sector.
wearable biosensors are another technology used in hospitals. These allow providers across the world to monitor patients and administer proactive care. These sensors are worn on the body and monitor vital health signs like temperature and heart rate to give healthcare providers more information and insights on the progression of diseases, illnesses, and overall health
Knocking Protein powders is a stretch. To suggest people eat enough protein every day from a regular diet is categorically false.
I have found it to be an extra piece of motivation in the early stages of a new exercise routine, when it is hardest to keep it up. At least for me, my resting heart rate decreases way before any noticeable physical changes.
I think this conversation is questionable. risk benefit on medications has been proven false time and time and time again. Doctors are not research trained to understand pharmacology to any reasonable depth.
These devices are generally great! My Apple Watch has gotten me into a very active lifestyle where I am always moving and stadning up trying to close the rings. It also helps me track my workouts (especially runs) super easily.
PSA: a Health and Wellness device, which are most smart watches, CANNOT be used for medical diagnosis, it is NOT a medical device. Medical devices are heavily regulated by the FDA and a smart watch is not such a device. This means it can give you a lot of data, but no doctor will use this data to do any diagnosis, they will use actual medical devices to do so. As Dr. Mike said, the data is considered “for entertainment” purposes only. – from someone who designs medical devices for a living.
I like Dr. Mike a lot. I can see why he’s like by a lot.
The joke at the end made me spit out my water… my bar for jokes is as low as ChatGPT’s lol
My mother fell last week with her bike and she wasn’t alone so there were people to help her, but the Apple Watch instantly triggered the SOS fall detection. If she’d be alone and maybe knocked out by the fall something like this can save a life.
Also, a friend of mine realized they have a heart sickness since their resting heart rate was below 45 while he doesn’t work out. Mine is at 45-47 while I’m in my mid 20s and work out 5 times a week. So he checked it with a doctor and he indeed has a chronical heart issue where his heart is beating to slow which also explains why he wasn’t able to work out with a high BPM without having issues with oxygen etc.
So yes if you don’t know what the measurements mean I’d say it’s gimmick but if you actually know that i.e. your HRV is higher if your rest was good and that it’s lower if you worked out too much or didn’t sleep well, getting sick, etc. things like this can give you important indicators for your life.
Sure! Here is the corrected text:
"I use these gadgets to collect data (including a blood pressure monitor from Omron that syncs with the health app), but I know that I’m not a specialist and leave the job of interpreting this data to my doctors."
That’s great information and more people need to hear this. I had a watch for half a year and while it was fun at the beginning, I eventually sold it again. I just didn’t get any valueable or actionable information out of it. It just proved things I already knew, like alcohol having a bad effect on my sleep and HRV. If your sleep is really messed up, it’s very bad at catching that accurately, especially the time you sleep in and wake up, and if your sleep is good, there’s not much benefit of measuring it. Other than that, it was mostly a waste of my money, time and energy, sometimes leading to unnecessary obsession, worry, paralysis and stress. I now do a quarterly health assessment where I measure my blood pressure, fasted blood sugar and other parameters.
Doctors practice guideline medicine. If A doesn’t work, go to B. If A and B don’t work go to C, etc. This is not sound medical Rx on a case by case basis. Too much time is lost in this thinking alternatives process rather than diagnosing the situation properly in the first place. The web is winning.
I had a loop recorder in my chest for 3yrs to capture data on a heart concern. Never had an incident during the 3yrs. 6 months after the loop recorder was removed, I had symptoms. Used the ECG on the Apple Watch to record the incident. Cardiologist used the data to diagnose the issue as ectopic heartbeats. Now I know what to do when it happens (which is rarely). Positive outcome for me
why is everyone saying ECG and not EKG?? maybe i’m just canadian but are they not different things? EKG’s are the little like graph and ECG’s are echocardiograms?? which is a heart ultrasound.
i’m not a doctor just need to have my heart checked on every few years so ive had both of those. I wouldn’t consider my watch to do either of those. it can give me an idea of my current HR but that’s not as much info as an EKG.
I have tachycardia and have never had an alert about my HR being high
I am using a Fitbit but only for counting steps, track time in the gym and heart rate during workout and calculate calories burned and the notifications for my calendar. The other stuff just came with it.
The same people that pushed covid fear mongering and the poke mandates have concerns about this Lol!
As well Doctor Mike has work to do on the wearable technology out there. Accepting the hospital institutional quality as gospel is his baked bias cake. The outside world is ahead of the inside world of healthcare technology because it is available.
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My mom has had afib since she was a teenager, but she didn’t know it until 2020. It was getting worse, happening more often, and lasting longer. She got a Galaxy watch for free with a phone, and even though she doesn’t ever wear it, she was using it to keep track of her afib before she had an ablation. It helped her doctors get a better idea of how much it was affecting her.
I totally get how people become anxious over the functionalities on their watches and not understanding how helpful or harmful certain data is.
It’s strange that they’re so focused on specifically the health tracking features, when most people are focused on other things – fall detection, emergency calling, location tracking, etc. The Watch does a ton more things than just gamifying your health statistics.
9:20 on that note, does wearing these fitness trackers cause any damage to body in the long run? Like radiation etc?
When i was in early 20s (a few years ago) i went to Vegas and was very hung over on the plane ride home. I was feeling very anxious and didn’t know if i could make it through the plane ride. Got on the plane and was feeling okay talking to my neighbor. My Apple Watch told me my heart rate is way too high and i should calm down, and this was mid take off. I will tell you that did not make me feel better and i started to freak out more. Ended up being fine but it spooked me more
what if you’re in the 9th percentile trying to get to the tenth? That’s me. I had a stroke when i was 41 years old (right at the beginning of the pandemic) What i lost is my confidence that my body wasn’t gonna betray me. The lockdown made it so easy to shut down and not challenge myself. I want a fitbit so i can track trends in my health. I’m a bit of a nerd, and now four years later I want to hack my physical therapy. I’m so lucky to even be alive.Can’t finish comment coherently…tearing up.
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